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Disney with Kids – Disney with Strollers

20 Thursday Apr 2017

Posted by Nora in Family, Travel

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Animal Kingdom, Disney, Epcot, Hollywood Studios, Large Family, Magic Kingdom, Stroller, Walt Disney World

Today is the last of a six part Disney with Kids series.  I hope you enjoyed the practical stuff, and found some new info.

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I wrote an overview of our experiences at Disney, as well as about the Fast Pass System (twice), our hotel, and the Meal Plan before.

The 2017 Disney with Kids series:
Disney while Pregnant
The Magic Kingdom
Epcot
Animal Kingdom
Hollywood Studios
Disney with Strollers

Disney Stroller Basics

In my opinion, strollers are a necessary part of the Disney experience for anyone six and under.  Even if your child gave up the stroller years ago, there are big advantages to having one at Disney.  First, and foremost, there is a lot of walking.  I cannot say that enough.  Your small child will get tired.  And, you might be tired too.  They can get some variety being carried, but nobody wants to do that all day.

A stroller also gives you a place to put things.  For example, you will want water for everyone in your party.  You might want snacks, sunscreen, sweatshirts, dry shoes (hello Kali River Rapids), guide books, park maps, or other items.  You might purchase items in the park (though, make everyone’s life easier if you have those items sent to your on-property hotel or the park pickup location if you are staying off property).  While there is always a chance of theft, we have never had anything stolen from our stroller.

The first thing you need to understand at Disney is that your stroller will rarely be where you left it.  If you do not leave it in a designated stroller parking area, a Disney employee will move it to the closest one.  Depending on where you are, this may not be obvious.  Do not assume your stroller has been taken; ask a Disney employee where stroller parking is.  If you do leave your stroller in stroller parking, it will still move.  Disney staff are constantly rearranging strollers to pack more in.  Or, it might be moved by a fellow guest needing access to their stroller.  If you can’t find yours ask.

Many people choose to flag their stroller with a balloon.  Personally, we have not found this to be necessary, even when using a Disney stroller.  That being said, even our orange stroller has been tricky to spot in the inevitable ocean of strollers so if this would be stressful for you, a balloon might help.

If you enter a building, you will generally need to leave your stroller outside.  This is true for most restaurants, even the quick service ones.  It is also true for most of the shops as they just aren’t spacious enough inside.  I’ll try to point out the few exceptions to this on a park by park basis.

Your Stroller (or outside rental) vs a Disney Stroller

This is a common question.  You can run the numbers, but you should also consider the pros and cons of both options.  We have done both; it highly depends on your needs.

Disney strollers

Contrary to what you may read, my children have never found these strollers uncomfortable.  The doubles are reasonably easy to steer and have plenty of storage.  They are neither lighter nor heavier than typical double strollers.  I assume the singles are similar, but we haven’t used those.  We have brought our double stroller and rented one from Disney to hold all the kids when we had many little ones.

Disney strollers are picked up and dropped off inside your park each day.  So, you do not have them on the bus/boat/monorail or through security.  If you ride the train around the Magic Kingdom you will leave them at your boarding point and pick up a new one when you disembark.  Remember to take your name card and belongings with you.  The disadvantage of this is that you are less able to race for a ride to start the day as you will be waiting in line to pick up your stroller.  You can send one person to pick up the stroller while those who want to ride go ahead.  I recommend this approach even if the rest of the group waits outside as the stroller pick up and drop off areas are somewhat small and can be congested.

Your own (or outside rental) stroller

Your stroller will be with you all the way from your car or hotel.  This means you will have it on Disney transportation and through Disney security and ticketing.

Your stroller must fold in an umbrella fashion to go on Disney buses, parking lot trams, and the Magic Kingdom train.  Sorry, the big Bob-type joggers don’t work well.  Essentially, it needs to fit like a single person, or in the case of the buses, fit under the seat.  Because even double umbrella strollers will fit under most seats on the buses, I prefer using my own stroller.  This way, you can roll your smallest children all the way to the park, and your sleepy children home at the end of the day.  The stroller will need to be unpacked and folded, but it still dramatically reduces the amount of carrying you will be doing.  For the parking lot tram, it may make sense to walk with the stroller while the non-strolling members of your party take the tram.  Many times I have arrived at our car at about the same time this way.

The stroller does not need to be folded to go on the monorail or boats.  However, the monorail compartments are small and usually jammed full.  If you have a stroller it is much easier to take a boat across the lagoon to your car or Magic Kingdom resort.  You do not have to cross the lagoon if you are using the Disney buses.

Disney security is pretty stroller friendly.  Specifically, you do not need to remove your children from the stroller for either the bag check or Magic Band stations.  You will need to remove any bags from underneath.

Park by Park

Magic Kingdom

As you might expect, the Magic Kingdom is full of strollers.  But, there are obstacles.  First, you will find Main Street USA is narrow and has real curbs.  You must also watch for the trolley tracks, which can easily catch a wheel.

Strollers can go on the Liberty Square Riverboat, but they cannot go on Tom Sawyer’s Island. If you choose to take the Walt Disney World Railroad, you will bring your stroller, but leave a Disney stroller behind and pick up a new one when you disembark.  During the parade, the boardwalk is the only way to move between Frontierland and Liberty Square (rest of Magic Kingdom).  While this is technically possible with a stroller, I do not recommend trying to enter or leave Adventureland or Frontierland during the parade.  It is just too congested and too many access points are closed.  Plan your day around the parade schedule.

The only buildings you might be able to bring a stroller in in the Magic Kingdom are Pecos Bill Tall Tale Inn and Cafe and Starlight Ray’s Cosmic Cafe.  Even then, probably only at off hours.  Both can be crowded, especially at dinner when dining options in the Magic Kingdom are limited.

Epcot

Counter-intuitively, Epcot is the most stroller friendly park at Walt Disney World.  The walking paths are largely open and smooth, and the crowds are not as packed in as other parks.  You don’t even need to fold your stroller to take a boat across the lake.

Unlike the other parks, strollers can go in many of the buildings.  You can explore Project Tomorrow and Innoventions in FutureWorld East. You can go in Imageworks, the Land Pavilion, and the Seas Pavilion in FutureWorld West.  In the Land Pavilion you can go to the Sunshine Seasons food court with your stroller.

In the World Showcase, you will find opportunities for al fresco dining.  You can also take your stroller in the Circle-Vision films inside the China and Canada pavilions.

Animal Kingdom

Animal Kingdom doesn’t have the curbs and trolley tracks of Magic Kingdom.  But, the walkways are similarly narrow, if not more so, and they are both hillier and bumpier.  That being said, Animal Kingdom is likely to be your most relaxing day so definitely take advantages of all the paths through the animal viewing areas.  They are all stroller accessible.  You can even take your stroller (not a Disney one) on the Wildlife Express Train.

Stroller parking does seem to be farther from the attractions.  In many cases this is because it is at the exit of the attraction and you have to walk back to the beginning.  At Kilimanjaro Safaris, you will hand your stroller to a cast member who will bring it to the stroller parking area.

I don’t believe any of the buildings in Animal Kingdom are stroller friendly.  But, most of the dining is al fresco and spacious enough to accommodate strollers.

Hollywood Studios

Despite being much newer, Hollywood has many of the same stroller problems as the Magic Kingdom.  Namely, curbs and narrow streets.  Therefore, it is not as stroller friendly as one would think.  Sunset Boulevard is shockingly narrow, especially with the vendor carts, and has actual curbs (as many Disney “streets” do, unfortunately).  It is also easy to get stuck in the Center Stage area also as it is mostly accessed by stairs.

Be prepared to walk/stand in line with your normally stroller bound children for the rides.  Stroller parking is clustered and therefore not really near anything.  Unlike other parks, it can sometimes be covered, which is nice on rainy days.  And, because the shows are rather long, they all have some level of line so your small children will be free or carried more often than at the other parks.

The only building you can go in with a stroller is Walt Disney: One Man’s Dream.  Frankly, though, unless you’re looking for stroller friendly AC, it’s not worth the time.

Summary

If you are traveling with kids (for admission purposes Disney kids are under 10), you will probably want a stroller.  This does not limit what you can do.  If you don’t need it much, use it as a home base.  In most parks, you can leave the stroller in one parking area and do multiple attractions around it.  If you would normally leave a baby/toddler in it all the time, realize that to experience most parks you will need to take them out.  Disney definitely tries to accommodate strollers.

 

Disney World with Kids – Disney while Pregnant

16 Thursday Mar 2017

Posted by Nora in Family, Travel

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Animal Kingdom, Disney, Epcot, Hollywood Studios, Large Family, Magic Kingdom, Pregnant, Walt Disney World

Today is the first of a six part Disney with Kids series.  I realize there are plenty of recommendations out there already.  This is the truly practical stuff.  Not the top rides (which get plenty of press), but the rides that aren’t worth it.  Recommendations on where to get naps in without having to go back to the hotel.  That sort of thing.  Hopefully, you’ll find my take a bit different from the others.

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I wrote an overview of our experiences at Disney, as well as about the Fast Pass System (twice), our hotel, and the Meal Plan before.

The 2017 Disney with Kids series:
Disney while Pregnant
The Magic Kingdom
Epcot
Animal Kingdom
Hollywood Studios
Disney with Strollers

Today will be an overview of the cons of being at Disney World while pregnant.  The next few weeks will cover each of the major parks.  I’ve been pregnant at Disney twice with other kids in tow.  Frankly, I can’t think of any advantages of being pregnant.  And, you need to consider your specific circumstances.  But, assuming you are up for travel and a lot of walking, you don’t have to sit on the sidelines.

Let’s start with walking.  You will walk a lot.  You need comfortable shoes.  Benches are not as frequent as you might like and are often taken.  How comfortable are you on a low wall or grassy surface?  All that being said, you will not be alone.  There are always lots of pregnant women at Disney.

Similarly, Florida is usually hot.  Not always, but often.  Hot and pregnant are not the best combination.  You will need lots of fluids and more breaks than usual.  But, there is shade fairly readily available so that’s a plus.  If you have the meal plan you can use your snack credits on bottled water and other beverages in the parks.  Personally, even having drunk regular municipal water for years in many parts of the US I think the tap water in Florida tastes terrible so I’m going with bottled.  You may read tips on maximizing the snack credits by bringing your own drinks and/or using the refillable cups they give you.  Nothing beats a cold drink, which is what you will get with a snack credit.  Since the regular meals have plenty of food, often some you can hold for later, and you’ll have lots of snack credits consider using them for drinks.

Sticking with meals, if you are at a nauseous stage of your pregnancy you may have a hard time.  Most Disney quick service food is mid-level fast food.  And the volumes are huge.  I recommend a sit down restaurant for lunch if you can schedule one (this is particularly tricky in the Magic Kingdom where choices are limited and they book up fast).  This will offer you a natural break in an air conditioned environment with a bathroom.  All very handy while pregnant.

Now for the parks!

Magic Kingdom

Disney recommends against Big Thunder Mountain, Seven Dwarfs Mine Train, Barnstormer, Space Mountain, Splash Mountain, and Tomorrowland Speedway.  The first four I totally understand and agree with as they are roller coasters.  Splash Mountain has a bar that may be an issue for pregnant women.  However, I rode Tomorrowland Speedway with no issues.  There is some bumping and gasoline smell.  If either of those would bother you, don’t ride.  It’s also a little tricky to get down into the cars.  But, I found it totally fine.

There are also two rides that Disney lists as fine for pregnant women that deserve comment.  First, I’m not prone to motion sickness, but the Astro Orbiter makes me queasy  even when I’m not pregnant.  I would not recommend this or the Mad Tea Party.  Also, the Swiss Family Tree House is fun.  But, its a lot of stairs, some of which are narrow and crowded so you should keep that in mind.  In contrast, Buzz Lightyear’s Space Ranger Spin is a great ride and doesn’t actually involve much spinning so there’s definitely no need to avoid it.

Epcot

Disney advises against Test Track and Mission Space.  You definitely need to abide by those guidelines.  Both are great rides, but not while pregnant.

Disney says you can visit both O Canada! and Reflections of China while pregnant.  But, they’re both standing movies and the picture motion coupled with standing can be difficult.  Definitely the bottom of the list.  If you’re looking for a movie style option, The American Experience is better.  Soarin’, on the other hand, is a great ride that you might not think you can do while pregnant.  You definitely can!

Hollywood Studios

Disney recommends against Star Tours, Tower of Terror, and the Rock ‘n Roller Coaster.  I have to agree with all three.  Nothing else even needs a warning.  Hollywood Studios is a rather show oriented park so on most things you’ll have seats.  They don’t always have backs, but at least you’ll be sitting down.

Animal Kingdom

Disney recommends against Expedition Everest, Primeval Whirl, Dinosaur, Kali River Rapids, and Kilimanjaro Safari.  I’ve actually not been on the first four because someone always had to stay with the kids who were too small and the pregnant lady seemed an obvious choice.  But, based on what I know I don’t recommend any of them.  Kilimanjaro Safari, on the other had, I’ve been on multiple times while pregnant with no issues.  It is somewhat long (especially if the line is considered) with no bathroom breaks available.  It is also somewhat bumpy, but not worse than some potholed city roads in the springtime.  I think it deserves consideration.

The animal viewing trails are shady and generally uncrowded.  They can take a lot of time and add many extra miles of walking.  But, they would be a good option if you’re up to it.  There are a number of shows also, many of which (The Lion King aside) have seats with backs.  Even if you can’t go on many of the rides, I wouldn’t skip Animal Kingdom just because one is pregnant.

Summary

Disney can be fun while you’re pregnant; it doesn’t need to be avoided.  But, consider how you feel and any guidance from your doctor.  Set reasonable goals and expectations for yourself.  Schedule time for meals and drinks.  Since many of the rides you won’t be going on have FastPass+, you’ll have more flexibility than the average guest to change things up if you need to.  Finally, enjoy the vacation before baby!

Last Week’s Accomplishments – Spring is Coming

07 Tuesday Mar 2017

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This week signaled the beginning of the end (of the school year).

  • We began the transitional activities of swimming lessons, adventure class, and indoor baseball that tend to lie between the winter and warm weather sports.  We also got (one last we hope) dusting of snow.
  • We had one doctor appointment.
  • We had a date night (belated Valentine’s Day).
  • Our oldest had a pitching clinic.
  • I started signing up for summer camps.  On the one hand it seems early.  On the other had I didn’t want the 1-2 things they really want to fill up and they do eventually.  I’ll do more registrations as the week goes on to give us a base and then probably wait until summer and add camps if they’re still interested and space is available.
  • I also got the summer pool membership paperwork so that needs to be filled in.
  • In house news, once the snow melted we found a few things had moved outside.  So, they came by to replace a screw on the windowsill.  Actual touch-up paint and caulking will wait for warmer weather.

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A Month in Review

23 Thursday Feb 2017

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I usually post the accomplishments posts on Tuesdays, but with the standard holidays, snow days, and now school vacation week, things are getting a bit off.  So, rather than wait yet another week, I decided to post it here.

  • We finished up skiing lessons.
  • Our now 4 year old started skating lessons.
  • We hosted two birthday parties.  We attended two birthday parties.
  • We’ve had some contractors through for warranty work.
  • We’ve been to three doctor’s appointments.
  • We went to preschool family day.
  • The boys had their school valentine’s day parties.
  • I got more unpacking done.  I’m now down to 6 boxes apart from those in the unfinished basement.  Hopefully I can finish those off in the next few weeks.
  • The older three boys saw the LEGO Batman movie.
  • We took the oldest three plus the baby to the Museum of Science.  There were three things we specifically wanted to see: DaVinci, Chocolate, and Journey to Space.  We also stopped in at a few of the permanent exhibits.  Thankfully we got their fairly promptly after it opened because by the time we left at noon it was packed and loud.  A function of school vacation week, I’m sure.
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  • I took the youngest boy to see the annual model train exhibit with his friend.
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Next week we’ll be back at school, at least for a few weeks before April vacation.  After that it will be the spring stretch of chaos and then summer.  Time rolls on.

With a Little Help from our Friends

16 Thursday Feb 2017

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We were very happy that everyone was able to get through the snow for the younger boys’ birthday party last weekend.  The forecast had been for the snow to start around 3 (after the party), but it started late morning and the roads were a bit tricky by the time the party started.  But, almost everyone made it, and things were actually a bit easier getting home because they’d gotten out to treat the roadways.  So, we burned off some energy before settling down for another snowstorm.  This one came with high winds.  While our power did not go out, we didn’t send the kids outside as much as usual in the snow because things were really blowing around.

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Despite the snow it was a very social week.  The boys did much sledding as well as snow fort and snowman building.  Yesterday our friends brought us some Valentine mice for dessert.

Fundraising 2017

02 Thursday Feb 2017

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I’ve wrote about my take on fundraisers two years back.  It seems like the number of fundraisers has slowed a bit since then, though we belong to the same relevant organizations.  But, the season is upon us so I thought an update was in order.

This year, I’ve paid my membership dues to our clubs and schools, and sent a bit of extra money their way to account for the fundraising I don’t plan to participate in.  At present, we’re in fundraising season for 5th grade graduation, plus they requested a contribution check.  This is our first graduation season and thus far fundraising seems to consist of selling candy, baked goods, drinks, etc. at other school events.  I sent my contribution check, but the events aren’t things I plan to go to.

Today the elementary school had a fundraiser with the local farm stand.  This I do participate in.  The difficulty is that at this point of the winter they don’t have much local produce so its more like a boutique grocery store.  So, I bought apple cider, deli chicken, and flowers.  Unfortunately, our preschool has its fundraiser at the same farm stand next week so I may have more cider and flowers to enjoy.  I might indulge in some fancy cheese.  It would have been great if they’d been spaced out a bit, but few people are associated with both so the schedules aren’t coordinated.

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Last Week’s Accomplishments – The Window is Fixed

17 Tuesday Jan 2017

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Nothing particularly dramatic this week, but

  • I fixed the window!  The weatherstripping had been coming loose whenever it was opened, but I was able to determine that the segments just needed to be re-positioned.  Hopefully its all set now.

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  • Baseball winter clinics started for the eldest.
  • We attended the 5th grade choral concert.  This was the first time he had to wear real dress clothes – tie and all – so it was a big event.
  • We had a few contractors through to adjust things on the punch list – door latches, a chipped light fixture, some switches, etc.
  • I mostly completed the once in a long while cleaning tasks on the first floor.  I should finish those today and move on to the second floor.
  • We attended a birthday party.
  • We hosted a family birthday party for the baby’s first birthday.

About Twin Gifting

22 Thursday Dec 2016

Posted by Nora in Family, Twins

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This may come across as more of a complaint than I intend.  Obviously anytime someone gives a gift they should be thanked and the gift enjoyed.  But, having had twins now for almost 10 years, there are a few gifting mistakes that folks without twins tend to make consistently and that are fairly universally viewed negatively by twins and twin parents.

So, in reverse order, here are four twin gifting fails.

4.  Failing to adhere to the same vs different established toy protocol.  This one is tough because each family’s rules are different.  But, families with twins, especially same gender twins around preschool age, have a preference here.  Either their twins are used to having their own version of every toy so they don’t fight over them.  Or, they’re used to having two similar toys that likely end up shared so there’s more variety.

As they get older, if you would like to give two gifts, two similar games is better than two copies of the same one.

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Or, as their interests develop, two similar valued items targeted at the interests of each child.

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3. Wrapping two different valued toys together on the assumption they will share both.  Twin children automatically assume one toy is for each child, even if they will be shared eventually.  They know when one is of substantially higher value than the other so the one who unwraps the lesser item is always let down.  Don’t add a small item just so there are two things.  One shared present is fine, so long as it is a shareable item like a game, tent, large container of blocks, or such.

2. Which brings us to the next issue.  LEGOs are not shareable toys.  Please do not buy one large LEGO set to share; two smaller ones will be much more appreciated.  Yes, the big sets are expensive and more eye popping for kids.  But, twins do not want to work together, alternating pieces on a LEGO set even if they can be convinced to do LEGO at the same time.  I have yet to run across a LEGO set where sections are designed to be built in parallel, though that would be an interesting idea for LEGO to explore with the really large sets.

1. Finally, please do not buy two items and wrap them in one piece of paper with both names.  I’ve seen this with similar and identical items.  It’s a bad look, and the kids know.  Twins are individuals and would like to be treated as such.  You went to the trouble of purchasing two gifts.  The least you could do is wrap them separately with their own names.  Pick one for each child (they will automatically switch if they want).  Unwrapping the gift is at least half the fun.

 

Last Week’s Accomplishments – Sorting the Hand-Me-Downs

29 Tuesday Nov 2016

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Thanksgiving was pretty much the focus last week.  We also started the run-up to Christmas.

  • I finally got a picture of the baby with all her shoes.  Note, these aren’t actually all the shoes I’ve found in the hand-me down boxes.  But, these are all the size 2s which is her current size (note, this is the smallest size I found).  I don’t think there are more than 4 pairs of any other size.  This seems like an awful lot for someone who can’t actually walk.

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  • We went Christmas tree shopping.  Many years back we had an artificial tree.  It got dusty and technology had advanced so we got rid of it and had real trees for a few years.  This year we decided to get a new fake one – LED, pre-lit, etc.  I had done some pre-shopping, but we ended up checking out Home Depot and BJs before settling on one from Lowe’s.  It’s not as thick as the old one, but it goes up much more quickly and I think we won’t notice once the ornaments are on.  One gripe I had about real trees is that often it seems like the ornaments are draped on the tree as there isn’t space for them to hang.
  • We also audited our string lights and discovered that they’re all indoor/outdoor.  I wasn’t expecting that, but we have more outdoor decoration potential here so it came in handy.
  • I got some new candles for the windows.  The ones we’ve had for the past 10 years were really dim so we’re trying a new brand.  I’ll see how one looks before opening the other boxes in case I need to return them.
  • I went to Kindergarten special person day with the baby.  We answered questions for the class about our family.

Last Week’s Accomplishments – New Decor

22 Tuesday Nov 2016

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After a bit of a lull, we had a busy week last week.

  • We had two dentist appointments.
  • I went to the preschool parent/teacher conference.
  • The older boys saw Fantastic Beasts.
  • I finalized our Thanksgiving menu.
  • We discovered a problem with the siding.  Thankfully, this will be fixed under warranty.  Apparently there was a change in the manufacturing process, which didn’t work out well, so they went back to the old formulation.  In the spring when its warm enough to paint again they’ll replace the siding.
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  • We finally got around to hanging the artwork in the front entry.  We’ve thought about getting some metal sculpture for a while, but we didn’t want to catch ourselves since they tend to protrude from the wall.  This location was perfect as its recessed and the sculpture is just the right size.

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  • I finished sorting/hanging all the hand-me down girls clothing.
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Welcome! I’m Nora. We have 5 boys and 1 girl. I write about the practical stuff that we call life – managing school, sports, and all things suburban. I get everyone where they need to be, with their stuff, when they need to be there and write about how that all gets done.

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